The Emergence of Maitreya and the Masters of Wisdom
Interview with Benjamin Creme
by Jason V. Francis, May 11, 2010
Since his first public talk in 1974, Benjamin Creme—Scottish artist, author, futurist and editor of Share International magazine—has been lecturing around the world about the emergence of Maitreya (My-tray-uh) the World Teacher. I had the privilege of interviewing Benjamin Creme about Maitreya.
Jason Francis: Who is Maitreya?
Benjamin Creme: Maitreya is the head and leader of a group of (from our point of view) completely perfected Men: Masters of Wisdom, as They’re called. They are Men who have gone ahead of us in evolution and have finished the evolution of this planet. They don’t even have to be on this planet but many of Them remain and oversee the evolution of the rest of us—that’s Their role.
They are a kind of inner government of the planet. They know the Plan of Evolution, which is in the mind of the Logos of this planet: the great Heavenly Man Whose body of expression this planet is. They seek to put that Plan into operation through humanity and the lower kingdoms.
Many different religious groups see Maitreya as the One they are expecting. Christians await the return of the Christ who through Jesus said He would appear again— not when He would appear, but that He would come again. Maitreya embodies what we call the Christ Principle (the energy of love); not just transmits or channels it through Himself but embodies it in His own Being. And so He is the Christ.
Two thousand years ago He worked through Jesus. Jesus in the esoteric tradition is not the Christ but the vehicle for the Christ. The Christ Himself being Maitreya. This is the age-old way for a teacher to come. For example, 600 years before Jesus the Buddha manifested Himself through the Prince Guatama. And Guatama Buddha became known as the Buddha, but He wasn’t the Buddha. He was the vehicle for the Buddha, a body through which the Buddha worked. That’s the way the teachers have come to the Earth right up until this time.
This time it’s different. Maitreya has found a way in which He Himself can come to the world; not through a disciple like Jesus or Krishna or the way the Buddha worked through Guatama, but in His own Being. And so we have the return of the Christ in completeness and not working through a lesser Being.
Muslims await Him as the great Imam: the Imam Mahdi. Hindus await Him as the return of Krishna, or some believe He is Kalki Avatar—the teacher for this coming Age. Buddhists await him under His name, Maitreya Buddha. Before He died the Prince Guatama gave a message from the Buddha, which was that at this time would come into the world a great Teacher by the name Maitreya who, by dint of His tremendous spiritual status, would galvanize and inspire humanity into the creation of a brilliant, golden civilization based, as He put it, on righteousness and truth. So for these last two thousand and a half years the Buddhists have awaited the return of Maitreya Buddha.
But they have no idea of the time. Some imagine it in 2,000 or 3,000 years from now, some in 200,000 years from now. I’m speaking from Japan, as you know, and the Japanese believe that the Buddha will indeed return as Maitreya Buddha, but it will be in 650,000,000 years, or something like that. So there is no hurry from their point of view.
My information is that Maitreya, the head and leader of our Spiritual Hierarchy, is the embodiment of all these expectations. He is the Christ to Christians; the Buddha to Buddhists; Krishna returned or Kalki Avatar to Hindus; the Messiah of the Jews; the Imam Mahdi to Muslims. And many of them believe He is coming very, very soon, within two or three years. In fact, some believe He is already in the world. They are quite right. My experience is that Maitreya has been literally, physically, in the everyday world of our life, in the middle of our life, living in the Asian community of London since July 19, 1977.
JF: How did you become involved in the work of telling the world of Maitreya’s Emergence?BC: I was contacted by one of His disciples—a Master of Wisdom—way back in January of 1959. In a few months, March 1959, I was brought into the Hierarchy and had a great experience in which Maitreya said that He Himself was coming sooner than anyone thought possible.
He said it would be in about twenty years. In the event it was eighteen years. He said I would have a role in His coming (He didn’t say what the role was) if I accepted it. I was filled with His energy, the subject of tremendous power and love. It was a transfiguring experience. And so I said I’m your man, whatever it is I have to do I’ll do. So that’s what I’ve been doing since 1975: preparing the way for the return of the Christ (in Christian terms) although He is also seen by all these other groups under these different names.
JF: You talked about a group of divine Men known as the Masters of Wisdom, the inner government of the planet. Where do the Masters come from and are They like us?
BC: They are exactly like us. They are like ordinary Men living in the world except that They have gone ahead of us in evolution. They haven’t changed Their physical appearance but They have evolved Their consciousness until They are like Gods. They have a God-like consciousness. They are divine in that sense but They see us as divine in exactly the same sense. They see no difference in Their divinity and our divinity. They see life as the sphere in which divinity exists. They see all of us as living in a divine and spiritual universe and They see the nature of all life as spiritual.
Maitreya comes as a great Teacher about the nature of life. He makes no difference between His life and our life. He says: “Don’t worship Me. If you worship Me you are putting Me above you. And I am not above you. I am at exactly the same point. There is only divinity. There is no greater or lesser divinity. There is just one divinity and we all share it.” So He sees us as divine as He is. Only from a mental, or awareness, point-of-view He is far, far older then we are and has evolved to a point where He can demonstrate His divinity. We can’t demonstrate our divinity if we don’t even know we are divine.
JF: Speaking of the Masters as having gone ahead of us in evolution, you’ve talked in the past about meditation and service as levers of evolution. Is there a scientific basis to meditation and service if we are spiritually evolving?
BC: Meditation and service are prime poles in what we call spiritual advancement. We are all on a spiritual path and that path is known by the Masters because They have all traveled that path and have come, as far as this planet is concerned, to the end of the path. So They can teach us about the nature of the path, the way to the path, how to remain on the path and serve the path. Meditation and service are part of that experience.
When a person is ready to work consciously with his or her evolution, the soul, because each of us is a divine soul, prompts its reflection (that’s the man or woman on the physical plane) into taking up some form of meditation. And meditation brings the person closer and closer to the soul and eventually to complete at-one-ment with that soul. That’s the purpose of meditation: to bring the person into at-one-ment with their soul.
Evolution is really the process by which we become more-and-more identified with and express our soul. The soul is a reflection of the supreme, divine Being who lies behind all manifestation. So the soul is perfect in every way and we gradually become more and-more perfect as we become more-and-more like the nature of the soul. That’s what evolution is: the evolution of consciousness.
I’m not talking about the evolution of the physical bodies, which evolve from the animal kingdom. All of the kingdoms evolve from the kingdom below it: the first is the mineral kingdom; from that came the vegetable kingdom; from that grew the animal kingdom; and from the animal kingdom came the human kingdom. We owe our bodies to the animal kingdom. But we are not animals. We are human beings, something different.
That difference is that we are souls—reflections of souls. The soul reflects the divine and reflects itself further as the human being. And so we are really three-fold. We are human beings, men and women on the physical plane. This is a dense physical planet and we are in dense physical bodies, but essentially that is the lowest aspects of ourselves. We are really the soul at a higher aspect, and at a higher aspect still we are divinity Itself.
JF: Why have Maitreya and the Masters returned at this time?
BC: They have come to an end of a cycle in Their own evolution, which requires Their return to the everyday physical plane of Earth. They have reached this point individually where They don’t need to be in the world but as a group They have to prove Their ability to function perfectly and have control on all planes.
We have only slight consciousness. We have consciousness and a great deal of control on the physical plane. We have consciousness to a degree on the astral (emotional) plane but very little control. And we have only a slight degree, I may say, of consciousness on the mental plane and absolutely no control on that plane at all. There is awareness of being of which we cannot even begin to imagine but which is the everyday consciousness of the Master.
JF: Is the emergence of Maitreya and the Masters connected in any way to what is called the “New Age” or “Age of Aquarius”?
BC: Very much so. Not so much on the part of the Masters, but They are using this opportunity, since They have to return, to do so at this time because we are at the difficult transitional phase between the Age of Pisces and the Age of Aquarius. This is an astronomical fact; there is nothing mystical about it. It is the result of the movement of our solar system around the heavens in relation to the constellations of our zodiac.
Our sun with its planets makes such a journey in space, which takes approximately 25,000 to 26,000 years to complete. So approximately every 2,150 years our sun moves through the spheres of influence of the energies of one planet into the sphere of influence of the energies of another. For the last 2,150 years or so it has been in the Constellation of Pisces, the “fish”, and has come through that. We have been influenced by the energies and qualities of these energies and created this civilization, which is now, literally, falling apart, coming to an end. The energies of Pisces began to recede in 1625 and the energies of Aquarius began to come in during 1675.
Now these two energies are not exactly but more or less equal. And this is the great difficulty. If either of them dominated in potency there would be greater stability in the world. But the world is wrenching from one sphere of influence to another. When I say “the world” I mean the world of men and women. So the people of the world are divided into two groups: one, largely the older group, who are satisfied with or used to the quality and the results of the energies of Pisces. For instance, these energies of Pisces have conditioned every aspect of our life: the political, economic, religious, scientific, educational and cultural structures and institutions and are all the result of our Piscean experience.
The quality above all, which Pisces has given to humanity, is the quality we call individuality. 2,000 years ago individuals of course were there but only on a very small scale and they were always the people with power; the people who could rule the others. Humanity as a whole had only a dim kind of consciousness and did what they were told by people with individuality. Today, individuality is a mass phenomenon. Everybody today is more-or-less an individual; some very potent individuals indeed. So we have brought individuality to a point where it rules everything in the world. We’re all rulers in a sense and this is very difficult to cope with.
The incoming energies of Aquarius, on the other hand, work in an entirely different way. They are the energies of synthesis. As a result of passing through the age of synthesis, the Age of Aquarius, which will last about 2,350 to 2,500 years, the quality above all which we will be aware of is synthesis. And this will fuse and blend all the disparate parts of the world into a synthesis without destroying the individuality. That individuality is there and is ours to keep and is a great advance from what was before, but its overuse has created a separation in the world so that the wonders, the brotherhood, and the unity of the world are profoundly threatened today. In fact, the creation of the nuclear bomb is one of the greatest factors that have brought the Masters one by one into the world today.
There are about 14 Masters living in the world today, together with the Master of all the Masters the Lord Maitreya. There are 63 Masters connected simply with the human evolution. (There are many other evolutions, which have many other Masters.) Eventually, there will be about two-thirds of those Masters, about 40, who will eventually live openly in the world.
JF: Could you discuss what Maitreya means when He
talks about honesty of mind, sincerity of spirit and detachment?
He says that few people have honesty of mind. Most people think one thing, say something else and do something else again. So there is no direct line from what we think to what we do. Honesty of mind changes that situation until what we think is what we do. We are true to what we think.
He says sincerity of spirit can best be thought of when you have a deep talk with an old much-loved friend. And you are speaking from heart to heart. You are not trying to convince your friend that you are better than you are; not trying to put anything over on them; you’re not trying to be anything but completely true, honest and respectful in what you are to your friend. That’s sincerity of spirit.
It’s speaking from the heart, thinking and loving from the heart to the heart—a direct heart reaction, which goes past the mental gymnastics, which most people do when talking to someone else. They are trying to put themselves over on them and trying to get the person to think more highly of them. They want to be loved, to be liked, to feel comfortable, to be taken seriously. Everybody has a want in relation to other people. But to be utterly and sincerely yourself and speak from the heart to the heart that’s sincerity of spirit.
Detachment is the ability to live with an absolutely calm and unruffled emotional body. If you were to see the emotional body of a Master it is like a lake, a still lake with no wind and the water is absolutely still and unruffled. That is how our emotional body should be but in fact, as you know, almost everybody is pulled and turned daily by the movement of their emotions. The emotions tend to rule the expression of most people. So detachment is the ability to see yourself not as the person in the mirror, not to see yourself as this physical body with its emotions and thoughts and ideas of the mental body, but to be aware of yourself as in fact you are, which is a soul in incarnation.
JF: What are Maitreya’s priorities?
BC: Maitreya’s priorities are very simple. Maitreya sees the world as the home for everyone. He sees everyone as divine; every single person is a fragment, a spark, of the divine. And He sees what really pertains in the world. At the moment half the world is poor. Millions of people are starving to death every year in a world with a huge surplus of food. And nothing concerns Him more than this. He says: “Nothing so moves Me to grief as this shame. The crime of separation must be driven from this earth. I affirm that as My purpose.”
The “crime of separation” is the fact that people have a sense that they have no relationship other than with their immediate family, friends or the people of their own village, town or country. Other people across the world and who we don’t know are, whether we like it or not or know it or not, our brothers and sisters. Humanity, Maitreya says, is One—one group called humanity. The differences in color, religion, traditions and so on are only coincidental.
In the process of reincarnation almost everybody in the world has been through every race, every color and every tradition. So it’s nonsense, a crime, to separate humanity. That is the crime, the crime of separation, which brings about the complacency that allows millions of people to die in the midst of plenty. There’s more than enough food for everybody. And yet two-thirds of the world lives on a dollar a day, whereas millions of them die with absolutely nothing. They die of want and suffer and go from camp to camp trying to get a life for their children.
He says everyone—humanity is varied, but everyone— has the same needs. And what we need is enough correct food, the proper food for our bodies. Everybody must eat to live. It’s the nature of life. Everybody needs enough food; needs shelter from the elements; needs healthcare. Humanity has great ills from over millions of years of incarnation; and they need education. Food, shelter, healthcare and education are priorities for every single person on the planet.
That doesn’t seem too much to ask but there is no country in the world, not even the richest country in the world, which has all four of these as a right. Maitreya sees these as fundamental human rights that should be everybody’s.
JF: Education is often thought of as learning how to read, write, do arithmetic and so forth. However, I can imagine that with the expanded consciousness of the Master education must have a far larger meaning then learning to read and write, as important as that is to learn. Could you discuss what education means?
BC: Yes, this is true. Everybody, of course, has to read and write. That’s elementary education. Every young adult and child has to learn the mechanics of living in the physical world. So you learn to read and write. But They don’t call that education. Education for a Master is education of consciousness, so that people become aware of and give expression to who and what they are.
If you have the capacity you might become a Leonardo da Vinci, a Rembrandt or an Einstein—somebody extraordinarily brilliant. But only as a result of having the inner capacity in the first place and the education which gives the person the opportunity to manifest that. Everybody is divine so everyone has divine attributes. And education is the way of becoming aware of and giving expression to these attributes.
He says that under the guidance of Himself and the
Masters over the next 2,500 years everybody on the planet will begin to
evolve through the ability—by the reconstruction of our lives, including
our educational structures—to express that which they are. He says
everybody counts. Everybody is needed. Everybody has within him or her
tremendous possibilities, acumen, awareness and talent. Only a fraction
of humanity has at any given time the opportunity to give expression to
Until people become aware of their divinity and are freed from the weight of want that bears down on countless millions of people, they are given no opportunity to express that divinity and that creativity which lies dormant within them. Under the stimulus of Maitreya and the Masters there will be an extraordinary flowering in this coming time, over the next 2,500 years, of the innate creativity that every single person has.
JF: Could you tell us about your book “The Gathering of the Forces of Light: UFOs and their Spiritual Mission” (2010)?
BC: This is my latest book. I began my work with what I call the Space Brothers—the people who use the UFOs, as they are called, the Unidentified Flying Objects. They are very identifiable to me. They are the vehicles used by the people on our sister planets of our system. They all come from our own system: the large majority from Mars and Venus but also from Jupiter and various other planets.
Now that sounds crazy. Some people might think there is no life on Mars or Venus that we know of—you couldn’t live there. Well, that is a misunderstanding. That is a statement made by our scientists, not because of their knowledge but out of their ignorance of the true reality of our physical plane. They postulate that there are three physical states or planes: solid physical, liquid physical and gaseous physical and above that nothing.
They are looking for something else, which their calculations tell them is there but which they cannot pinpoint, examine and experiment with. They call it “dark matter”. Dark matter is actually what the Masters call the etheric planes of matter. Above gas there are four (to us, as yet) invisible planes. And since they cannot be seen we don’t even register them; we think they don’t exist. They do exist.
If you went to Mars you would see nobody at all unless you had the vision, which encompasses the four etheric planes, each one finer and higher as it goes up. So the fourth is the lowest and the first is the highest etheric plane. And these are physical but etheric physical. Our physical eyes can’t see them unless we have etheric vision. In this coming time more and more children will be born with some degree of etheric vision and will see what as yet is unseen by the vast majority of humanity.
If you went to Mars you would—as scientists say, because they’ve sent probes to Mars and taken photographs—see a dead planet, but you don’t see anybody. In fact there are more people living on Mars, although it is a much smaller planet, than are living on Earth. It is possible because they are of etheric physical being. To themselves they are perfectly solid, physical and real. To us they are invisible.
The spacecraft that they make (of which they are the masters of space) are made mainly on Mars. Even many of the Venusian ones, the specifications are made on Venus but the actual craft are made on Mars. And they are made out of etheric physical matter. It’s physical but it’s etheric. It’s invisible in itself unless you have etheric vision.
It’s a question of etheric vision. We could have
and will develop etheric vision. Some people have some degree of etheric
vision. Our physical makeup is more or less complete. What we don’t have
is etheric vision. Except a relatively few people have some level of
etheric vision— perhaps the fourth and the third etheric plane. The
second and the first are very fine and usually the last of all to be
seen. When you have etheric vision you have the reality, which lies
behind that vision.
The Space Brothers create these craft and they are here on a spiritual mission. They are not here for fun. They are here to help humanity. They are absolutely and totally dedicated to their spiritual mission. That’s why I call it “UFOs and Their Spiritual Mission”. And the “Forces of Light” are the forces of our own Spiritual Hierarchy now coming One by One into the everyday world from the inner planes—but they have never been elsewhere but in the world—and the Space Brothers coming together to help humanity.
Without their help this planet would probably be more or less uninhabitable. Their work is the cleansing—to an extent, they are not allowed by Karmic Law to do it completely—to some degree of the air, oceans, seas, rivers and land of all the pollution we pour into it or release into the atmosphere. The most dangerous of all of the pollution we release is coming from nuclear power stations. The nuclear scientists believe they have complete control over nuclear energy. They absolutely do not.
Above what can be measured (gaseous physical) they have not yet the technology to measure. They think that if there is nothing measurable it doesn’t exist. But the higher levels, which they today call “dark matter”, the etheric planes of matter, are there. And on the etheric planes nuclear radiation is pouring out of every nuclear power station in the world, every nuclear experiment, every nuclear bomb. It pours into the world a toxic gas, if I can call it that, which is above gas and is the most dangerous thing to Earth.
The Masters have recorded that the ills of humanity are worst at the etheric physical plane. The incidence of Alzheimer’s disease at a lower and lower age is the direct result of this toxic nuclear gas, which is affecting all humanity, breaking down the immune systems of humanity and bringing in wave after wave of new diseases, influenzas and toxicities, which we no longer have the capacity to deal with. So getting Alzheimer’s used to be an illness of old people but now middle-aged people indeed and even young people have become infected by this toxic result of the energy pouring out of the nuclear power stations.
The nations have plans to build even more power stations. The French, Japanese, Americans and so on see his as one way to deal with the carbon footprint, the heating up of the Earth. It would make it even worse. It would destroy humanity if they make any more power stations.
Maitreya is speaking openly and He has already appeared 13 times on an American television. [Benjamin Creme was interviewed on May 11, 2010. Maitreya has since given numerous interviews on television in Mexico, Brazil, and Russia.] And gradually His words will be taken seriously. He is not working completely openly. He is incognito. He is not using the name Maitreya. He is appearing as an ordinary man, as one of us, but in fact it is Maitreya.
When He is asked about the effect of nuclear radiation in the world I am sure He will be very clear how dangerous it is and that all nuclear power plants and experimentation and so on have to be stopped and dismantled for our children and their children.
JF: In December 2008 Share International sent a press release to the world’s media announcing that an unusual “star” would soon be seen around the world both day and night. Since that time many dozens of videos have turned up on YouTube showing an unusual “star” in the sky and Share International magazine has also been publishing countless photos of the “star” sent in by readers. You say the “star” is a modern day version of the Star of Bethlehem and is inaugurating Maitreya’s return. You have also said that there are actually four of these “stars”. Could you tell us what they are?
BC: They are gigantic spaceships: one from Mars, one from Jupiter, one from Venus and one from a planet whose name has not been given. They are spacecraft (not ordinary UFOs doing their ordinary work, which is extraordinary), which do this special work vis-à-vis the ‘star’.
I have been told the four “stars”will be in place until the Day of Declaration [the day Maitreya announces Himself to the world upon invitation], in the North, South, East and West, so that wherever you are in the world your area will be covered by a ‘star’. All you have to do is keep looking for them; they don’t appear all the time. People imagine you just look up and suddenly see them. It is not that simple. They are gigantic but they do not fill the sky. They are larger than planets and stars and they move.
Each “star” is about the size of five football fields put together. They don’t appear all the time because they have to recharge their batteries. So they move as close to the sun as possible to recharge their batteries that way. That takes time and then they return to position and move around. That is the thing about the `star’—it moves around.
JF: You mentioned earlier that Maitreya is being interviewed on American television but incognito. How are people responding to Maitreya when they hear Him speak and do we know how many have heard Him speak thus far?
BC: I don’t know how many people have heard Him. Millions and millions have the opportunity to hear Him because it goes out on the Internet at the same time. I don’t know how many in fact have heard Him. But the effect according to my Master—I have not heard one, I don’t see or hear American television [in London, England]—is threefold. Some find what He has to say not what they like at all. They want the world to carry on this way that is, bringing it to a point where we will destroy all life on the planet, though they might not know it. They are afraid of change and they are afraid of that kind of change, the change of attitude that Maitreya is no doubt seeking to bring forward: the fact that humanity is One. We are brothers and sisters of one planet and under the one God and we have this planet as ours to look after and not to destroy.
Then there are those who, I am told, have already recognized—not necessarily Maitreya; they may not know Him as Maitreya—that Maitreya is not an ordinary man, not just simply one of us. They believe He must be sent from above to say the things He does say. He has brought new hope and new life into their hearts and they can only wait hopefully until He is declared before the whole world. Others see Him as interesting and touching.
Some have already, in the sense that they pray to Him, recognized His divinity. There are all these different kinds of reactions.
JF: Will Maitreya be speaking on television in other nations?
BC: Well, this subtle re-education of humanity will go on. Maitreya will—I don’t know when, but quite soon—finish speaking on television in America and will go to Japan, Europe, China, Russia, South America and so on. He will go around the world, appearing on television until most people will have heard Him and respond to Him and His ideas.
JF: What is the reason behind His appearing incognito, or not mentioning His true status, during His interviews?
BC: He wants the people to respond to Him because they want for the world what He is advocating for the world, which is sharing, justice and peace. He says without peace there will be no world. If there is a major war it would be nuclear and would destroy all life— human and subhuman—on planet Earth. He says peace is essential. But how do we get peace? He says there will never be peace until there is justice in the world. So we have to create justice.
How do we create justice? He says justice will only come when there is trust. How do we get trust? He say there is only one way to get trust and that is to share the resources of the world. He says it is so simple. The answer is in our own hands. When we accept sharing we automatically create the trust, which leads to the end of injustice. And there is massive injustice in the world. Wars and terrorism are the result of injustice. People feel the injustice, they feel affronted and angry about the injustice of the world and rightly. A few countries, the G8 nations of the world, usurp and waste three quarters of the resources of the world.
Why should the people in Africa, parts of India and South America accept that they have nothing? That they starve to death? That they live miserable lives hunted by misery and poverty and want? Why? The world, Maitreya says, belongs to everybody, not just a few developed nations. He says the gap between the developed and the developing world is getting larger and larger. He says in that gap lies the potential for a third world war. That war would be nuclear and would destroy all life on Earth.
So we have a choice. We have free will. The choice is ours, but we have to make that choice. He doesn’t come to make that choice for us but to show what the choice is. The choice is to go on as we are going and destroy everything and all life on Earth or to accept the principle of sharing, create the trust which gets rid of the injustice and have the peace, which will come only as the result of the ending of injustice. He says while there is injustice there will never be peace.
We know where we are going; we know what we have to do. It’s up to us to do it. That’s the decision of humanity. He says we have to do it—every brick and every stone of the New Age structures must be put in place by humanity itself. We have to do it out of our own divinity. He will call on our divinity, call to that divinity to manifest that divinity. He says when you share you recognize God in your brother. “Step into sharing”, Maitreya says, “and step into your divinity”.
We don’t know the meaning and purpose of life. He comes to show us the meaning and purpose of life. It is to live life to the full with the greatest creative reality and all involved at the same level, all at the level of divinity, sharing the resources of the whole world, which He calls the most bountiful of worlds.
[For more visit http://www.share-international.org/.]